Comments on: More on Ruby Payne…

By: LBW

LBW — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 01:48:59 +0000

I agree with some of what Payne presents and some not. During my readings on the subject, I did watch a “clip” where Payne said it takes 3 generations to move out of poverty. She reports that the first generation works hard, very hard. The next generation completes high school and the third generation completes college. For me, this was an aha moment as it hit home. She continued by saying that the generation to first complete college typically become teachers (educators)…again aha! This analogy is my story in regard to poverty and education. My grandparents came here from Italy and worked hard, very hard! Their children, not all, but some completed high school (they had a lot of children…16 to be exact). The next generation (me) completed college, not all but some and I am one of the college graduates and I am an educator….I think she presents many ideas that I can agree with and it made me think about some things, especially some of my students. Overall, it has been very interesting and thought provoking. Often, the more experiences one has, the greater the knowledge and ability to make connections. Unfortunately, the ability to have experiences often requires currency.

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By: Randy Reister

Randy Reister — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:00:59 +0000

Over and over again I like to think about these problems. As a matter of fact it was not even yesterday that I was thinking about this very situation. Frankly, what is the answer though?

By: Ssevers

Ssevers — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:40:00 +0000

I read the book, “A framework for Understanding Poverty” by Ruby Payne for a class and have heard of her in the social work field. I have problems with her generalizing by using the word “all” and categorizing people into classes even though this happens in our nation. What is considered “middle class”? Is it being employed making a certain amount of money, assets one has, determined by morales and values, same class as previous generation, or what choices one makes in life? I was told by a person early in life that one can be poor but can be clean. You can have little but treasure what you have. I think it would have been better if Payne would not have imposed the idea of the word “All” because I think this word causes many objections and thus becomes a more complex issue. I had mix thoughts and feelings as I read her book which put my brain on overload. I decided to keep it on a simple level “developing an awareness” and thinking of it as “food for thought”.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:24:00 +0000

I’m not sure we are still in a middle class nation, but I sort of agree with you in regards to the value of her work. Ruby Payne is sharing what she has learned about human patterns of thinking and behaving as she experienced them during her time working with children of poverty. As a counselor, much of what I do is identifying patterns and helping students understand how these patterns help or hinder their quality of living. I think this is where it started fro Ruby Payne. Her critics look at her work as perpetuating the “culture of poverty” myth, the foundation for deficit theory programming. I think a quick review of the book would leave you thinking that she supports deficit theory-nothing could be further from the truth. Her whole approach is based on identifying the resources available for the individual, and then using these resources to create more resources.