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		<title>Comment on Online Ethics and Political Campaigns: The Bucy Bots Go On the Attack Again by The Polish Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Polish Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 04:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree the endless anonymous Bucy trolling and negativity is annoying, and it does seem like it is being pursued as part of a coordinated strategy.  But I&#039;m generally of the opinion that it&#039;s more important that a good candidate be elected than making a symbolic vote against tactics I don&#039;t like.  I really hope that if she wins the primary, Ms Bucy will address these issues so I can vote for her in good conscience.  And if Mr. Laslovich wins, here&#039;s hoping the Bucy partisans can back him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the endless anonymous Bucy trolling and negativity is annoying, and it does seem like it is being pursued as part of a coordinated strategy.  But I&#8217;m generally of the opinion that it&#8217;s more important that a good candidate be elected than making a symbolic vote against tactics I don&#8217;t like.  I really hope that if she wins the primary, Ms Bucy will address these issues so I can vote for her in good conscience.  And if Mr. Laslovich wins, here&#8217;s hoping the Bucy partisans can back him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Online Ethics and Political Campaigns: The Bucy Bots Go On the Attack Again by The Polish Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Polish Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 04:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cowgirl hasn&#039;t been particularly interesting since the legislature was in session.  I doubt I&#039;ll stay away completely, but frankly during the campaign season the most interesting news cowgirl has broken has been that Rick Hill cheated on his wife, Neil Livingstone thinks he&#039;s James Bond, and Denny Rehberg is a drunken hypocrite.  None of that is news - combine that with precious little analysis and a comment page that is forever swamped with nonsense, and it&#039;s a less dynamic blog than it once was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowgirl hasn&#8217;t been particularly interesting since the legislature was in session.  I doubt I&#8217;ll stay away completely, but frankly during the campaign season the most interesting news cowgirl has broken has been that Rick Hill cheated on his wife, Neil Livingstone thinks he&#8217;s James Bond, and Denny Rehberg is a drunken hypocrite.  None of that is news &#8211; combine that with precious little analysis and a comment page that is forever swamped with nonsense, and it&#8217;s a less dynamic blog than it once was.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Time for People To Be Fired In Missoula by The Polish Wolf</title>
		<link>http://intelligentdiscontent.com/2012/05/20/its-time-for-people-to-be-fired-in-missoula/comment-page-1/#comment-108347</link>
		<dc:creator>The Polish Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 04:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand Rob&#039;s frustration with moral arrogance; it&#039;s a common annoyance of towns where academia has a powerful influence.  But there&#039;s a much bigger issue here, and it&#039;s certainly not limited to Missoula, or college towns.  For all the progress that has been made in women&#039;s rights, that assertiveness in women&#039;s rights (like the slut walk you mentioned) has a certain backlash, both among young men who have decided that those women have gone too far, and who would never rat out a &#039;bro&#039; for the sake of a &#039;hoe&#039;.  

I observe it frequently with my male students, which is unnerving, and a certain acceptance of it from my female students, which is in many ways more so.  I really think part of the key is empowering young women, making it easier for them to feel confident independent of men (which I think Pogie has written about  http://intelligentdiscontent.com/2012/01/10/taking-women-students-seriously/).  This is not only important for the women who later find themselves in circumstances where they are at risk, but also for their peers, whose opinions largely  determine whether sexual assaults are tolerated or reported and dealt with.  

With my little sister attending UM, that&#039;s very scary to me - to think that she could be subjected to this same attitude.  Until the culture changes, immediate and firm enforcement is all the more important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand Rob&#8217;s frustration with moral arrogance; it&#8217;s a common annoyance of towns where academia has a powerful influence.  But there&#8217;s a much bigger issue here, and it&#8217;s certainly not limited to Missoula, or college towns.  For all the progress that has been made in women&#8217;s rights, that assertiveness in women&#8217;s rights (like the slut walk you mentioned) has a certain backlash, both among young men who have decided that those women have gone too far, and who would never rat out a &#8216;bro&#8217; for the sake of a &#8216;hoe&#8217;.  </p>
<p>I observe it frequently with my male students, which is unnerving, and a certain acceptance of it from my female students, which is in many ways more so.  I really think part of the key is empowering young women, making it easier for them to feel confident independent of men (which I think Pogie has written about  <a href="http://intelligentdiscontent.com/2012/01/10/taking-women-students-seriously/" rel="nofollow">http://intelligentdiscontent.com/2012/01/10/taking-women-students-seriously/</a>).  This is not only important for the women who later find themselves in circumstances where they are at risk, but also for their peers, whose opinions largely  determine whether sexual assaults are tolerated or reported and dealt with.  </p>
<p>With my little sister attending UM, that&#8217;s very scary to me &#8211; to think that she could be subjected to this same attitude.  Until the culture changes, immediate and firm enforcement is all the more important.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Time for People To Be Fired In Missoula by lizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, what I find most disturbing is how women who report being raped get blamed---not just by law enforcement (I know one person who is a part of the 80 case review), but by their peers as well.  and if it&#039;s not overt blame, then it&#039;s a more broad, cultural indifference to the prevalence of sexual assaults that happen, the majority being perpetrated by assailants the victims have some familiarity with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, what I find most disturbing is how women who report being raped get blamed&#8212;not just by law enforcement (I know one person who is a part of the 80 case review), but by their peers as well.  and if it&#8217;s not overt blame, then it&#8217;s a more broad, cultural indifference to the prevalence of sexual assaults that happen, the majority being perpetrated by assailants the victims have some familiarity with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Time for People To Be Fired In Missoula by Rob Kailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Kailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be clear, poet.  These issues plagued Missoula a very long time ago.  Some of us, a few, complained about such well before your poet ass ever moved to this town.  Quit pretending that your arrival marked the outrage.  It didn&#039;t, nor would it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear, poet.  These issues plagued Missoula a very long time ago.  Some of us, a few, complained about such well before your poet ass ever moved to this town.  Quit pretending that your arrival marked the outrage.  It didn&#8217;t, nor would it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Time for People To Be Fired In Missoula by Rob Kailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Kailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missoula bashing?  Where were you 20 years ago, Lizard?  Just asking ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missoula bashing?  Where were you 20 years ago, Lizard?  Just asking &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Time for People To Be Fired In Missoula by Moorcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moorcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 23:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lizard&#039;s left handed insult to Rob aside (he is a big boy and quite capable of speaking for himself), I find the situation in Missoula to be beyond words. Understand that I have a daughter attending UM right now so I have been keeping quite a bit of attention on the situation.

What disturbs me most is that it now it has spawned a Federal Investigation due to the lack of action taking by the various parties involved. Why should this federal action be needed?

As far as the situation spanning decades, it does, regardless of how much you dislike the messenger. We are from the area, remember? It is certainly not a problem confined only to Missoula, but it is a situation that exists there. I don&#039;t think that Rob was insinuating any insult on the City of Missoula in General, but you have to ask yourself... &quot;How comfortable are you sending your daughter to UofM?&quot;. In my case, the answer would certainly be VERY uncomfortable. I am glad that she lives offcampus and is armed with a very large handgun that she is more than capable of using.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lizard&#8217;s left handed insult to Rob aside (he is a big boy and quite capable of speaking for himself), I find the situation in Missoula to be beyond words. Understand that I have a daughter attending UM right now so I have been keeping quite a bit of attention on the situation.</p>
<p>What disturbs me most is that it now it has spawned a Federal Investigation due to the lack of action taking by the various parties involved. Why should this federal action be needed?</p>
<p>As far as the situation spanning decades, it does, regardless of how much you dislike the messenger. We are from the area, remember? It is certainly not a problem confined only to Missoula, but it is a situation that exists there. I don&#8217;t think that Rob was insinuating any insult on the City of Missoula in General, but you have to ask yourself&#8230; &#8220;How comfortable are you sending your daughter to UofM?&#8221;. In my case, the answer would certainly be VERY uncomfortable. I am glad that she lives offcampus and is armed with a very large handgun that she is more than capable of using.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Time for People To Be Fired In Missoula by lizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 23:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>expressing the need for accountability of leadership does not exclude individual action as one disingenuous commenter seems to be insinuating.  both are needed, and both can happen simultaneously.  part of beginning to address the cultural baggage is to demand new leadership to begin working on shifting institutional priorities.  at the same time, go to events like the slut walk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gipbgWy2YvU

as for the Missoula bashing and prognostication of partisan consequences, that&#039;s not what this is about.  those who take it there are being counterproductive and opportunistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>expressing the need for accountability of leadership does not exclude individual action as one disingenuous commenter seems to be insinuating.  both are needed, and both can happen simultaneously.  part of beginning to address the cultural baggage is to demand new leadership to begin working on shifting institutional priorities.  at the same time, go to events like the slut walk:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gipbgWy2YvU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gipbgWy2YvU</a></p>
<p>as for the Missoula bashing and prognostication of partisan consequences, that&#8217;s not what this is about.  those who take it there are being counterproductive and opportunistic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Time for People To Be Fired In Missoula by Rob Kailey</title>
		<link>http://intelligentdiscontent.com/2012/05/20/its-time-for-people-to-be-fired-in-missoula/comment-page-1/#comment-108339</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Kailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you do, Pogie, don&#039;t tell Missoulians that they might actually be responsible for this mess.  It must certainly be someone else&#039;s fault.   Let&#039;s say Foley, or maybe Engen.  Certainly no idea or person that Missoulians had a hand in promoting ... 

To those who&#039;ve actually paid attention, these issues go back decades.  This is not a new outrage.  My question is this:  can Missoula overcome it&#039;s moral arrogance and actually change the culture that&#039;s been built over a quarter century?  My pessimistic assessment is &quot;no&quot;.  The people who could change things are never to be even remotely responsible.  It certainly must be someone else.

I&#039;m going to make a prediction I will likely take some flak for, but I stand behind it nonetheless.  The next Montana town that will fall to the far right is Missoula.  And those who struggle against such will blame everyone else given their failure.  Truly I hope that I&#039;m wrong.  I doubt I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you do, Pogie, don&#8217;t tell Missoulians that they might actually be responsible for this mess.  It must certainly be someone else&#8217;s fault.   Let&#8217;s say Foley, or maybe Engen.  Certainly no idea or person that Missoulians had a hand in promoting &#8230; </p>
<p>To those who&#8217;ve actually paid attention, these issues go back decades.  This is not a new outrage.  My question is this:  can Missoula overcome it&#8217;s moral arrogance and actually change the culture that&#8217;s been built over a quarter century?  My pessimistic assessment is &#8220;no&#8221;.  The people who could change things are never to be even remotely responsible.  It certainly must be someone else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to make a prediction I will likely take some flak for, but I stand behind it nonetheless.  The next Montana town that will fall to the far right is Missoula.  And those who struggle against such will blame everyone else given their failure.  Truly I hope that I&#8217;m wrong.  I doubt I am.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steve Daines Endorses General Skees. Does He Support His Agenda As Well? by Don Pogreba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Pogreba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He actually said it in front of the House Judiciary Committee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HyBohOA9EY&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He actually said it in front of the House Judiciary Committee.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HyBohOA9EY&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HyBohOA9EY&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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